I've been too busy to write here, but I have not been away from blogging. I won't steer you toward what I've been up to -- elsewhere -- but I will say that I am tired. My fatigue is not the kind one feels after some arduous task or struggle; rather, it is the kind one feels from spending too much time in one's head.
Suffice it to say, I am tired of trying to sound convincing.
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Why do any of us believe what we do believe?
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A Tangent
A few questions come to mind. They emerge randomly to me; they carry no import of any expedience. They just merely show up, bowing their heads while standing atop a ball: ?????
- If Jesus the Christ is real, and if He was a blogger, what would He blog about? What tone would He take?
- If Christ accepted comments at His blog, what would be the first question you'd ask?
- If Satan is real and he had a blog, what would he write about? What question would you ask him?
- If there is a God, does He love Satan? If so, why? If not, why not?
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THE QUESTION EXPLORED
Why DO we believe what we do? Is it not a matter of desire, of will? Do I believe in Christ merely because it is my desire to do so? Is belief nothing more than an act, a choice, a decision?
My non-believing friends, be they atheists or agnostics or materialists or empiricists, inform me that the cosmos possesses no inherent "meaning." In other words, there is nothing of religious import -- or the equivalent -- in the universe that exists independent of human consciousness. Moreover, there is no meaning or purpose not only intrinsic or extrinsic to the universe, there is no equivalent in human consciousness: there is nothing in your thought-life that impels you -- by force of law, rule or precept -- to think certain ways. You can, pretty much, do whatever you believe is right, meaningful and purposive. Ultimate meaning and purpose is up to you: the object of your adoration, worship or motivation is yours to create, and you need not even create a thing.
This, at least to me, is the materialist/atheist worldview in a nutshell. It is an idealism of mammoth proportions, for it only exists in the human mind and that mind is the only place it can ever exist.
And yet ...
I wonder if it's true? For I note that now that I've written down this great truth about the cosmos -- that no truth exists independent of the mind who creates or at least affirms it -- there seems to be some possibility -- however remote -- that the very act of communicating this truth -- by merely writing it down -- renders the truth false. The proposition "All minds find meaning on their own terms" appears to this writer as something quite like an absolute that transcends any individual mind, for it is meant to apply as the law of all minds. In other words, there is something extrinsic that binds humans together: Humans must create. There is no exception. You have no choice in the matter. And I communicate this to you: you do not find it for yourself.
That seems rather problematic.
Moreover, if I say that morality is always evolving, that an individual's personal ethics are shaped by the expectation of any social group in which an individual exists, I must admit that morality is absolutely always evolving, mustn't I? And if I admit that, then I must admit other absolutes, like what was once preferred is not now preferable; what was once good is now not; humans must change; standards are dynamic and never static. Of course there is something static, e.g., humanity, evolution, society (as a concept), and choice: humans (static) evolve (static) in society (static) willingly (static).
Have I, as I wrestle through all of this, merely mangled my arithmetic? If humans MUST create, then there is no choice; if humans evolve by willing to create, then choice is real. Irrespective of my apparent fallaciousness, the assumptions are meant absolutely: they are not created.
But none of this matters. What matters is that I do not see how to explain why a person believes what he or she does independent of that person's will. I can never, ever present a case for the truth of Christianity that could be described as irresistible. I think such a thing impossible. And I note that those who aim to discredit Christianity or theism cannot possibly argue from a position of absolute compulsion, either. There is nothing any of us can say to each other that can change another's heart. We believe, and belief is a choice.
Perhaps, then, a good question in debating another person about God's existence or non-existence is to ask what it is our interlocutor desires? What does he or she want to believe? What sort of universe do they want to accept? For if an atheist, for example, says to me that he wants his beliefs in the universe to conform to what the universe is as described and defined by science, then he is admitting that his beliefs come from outside him: he is saying that something that he did not create defines his beliefs: he can't help but submit to reason and the hard, brute facts afforded him by his senses and the scientific method. But surely this is utterly unhelpful, because now we are back where we started: we do not create meaning. Instead, the universe gives it to us -- and we submit. Absolutely. Or, so we should.
Have you ever been stymied by that person who tells you that all truth, logic and meaning are subjective, and then berates you for being a Christian, calling Christianity a "lie?" I sure have. And I am quick to note that if all truth is subjective, then, it follows that Christianity is -- at least for me -- one of those subjective truths. And if it is a subjective truth, then why is my subjectivist interlocutor critical of my choice? Or does his subjective quest for meaning include his right to be critical: he derives further meaning by berating my freely chosen worldview? How, pray tell, can my choice be wrong or even inferior? What, does it fail to correspond to some objective truth? What is that truth, how do we know it, and why are we discussing subjectivism if there is in fact an objective truth?
Such puzzles.
I am left, of course, nauseous, just like Mr. Sartre, as I consider these conundrums. But despite the nausea, I fight, nay, I WILL to believe in a universe that is fundamentally rooted in purpose, the purpose of love. I choose to believe in a universe that can and will answer our deepest questions; I choose to believe in a universe where all goodness, beauty, joy, bliss, art, genius, justice, laughter, music, color, taste -- and so many more lovely things -- are not crushed into oblivion. I choose to believe like Friedrich Nietzsche that suffering makes humanity heroic; and I believe with him that life is everlasting. But unlike that great atheist, I refuse to believe that human heroism ends in nothingness, crushed in the vast emptiness forever forsaken, cast into some unconscionable hell; nor do I believe that life recurs in some endless and vicious circularity, where we can live out our futility ad infinitum in Nietzsche's "Eternal Recurrence."
I recall once reading in The Boston Globe a review of the lovely film about Sts. Francis and Claire, "Brother Sun, Sister Moon." The capsule review, wherein the film was given one star, included this: "A film only a saint could love." I remember sneering at the reviewer's smug and ridiculous words. For latent in the remark was nothing but disdain for the holy. I retorted, "What sort of person would not want to be a saint? What sort of person gives the pursuit of holiness but one star?"
In a meaningless universe, where holiness means nothing, where love is but a dream and a whim, I protest with all due rebellion: "This is my pride -- to believe in a lie that is more beautiful than the truth! I shall be a saint!"
The empty universe does not deserve such a compliment.
Peace to you, this day, and forever.
BG
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13 comments:
Bill,
I have been following your interactions with Loftus and company and have found them to be quite inspiring. I spent quite a bit of time on that site debating with them and their views, seeking to defend my positions and provide a witness, perhaps gaining a brother in the process. It was ultimately futile in that sense, but not in the greater joy it brought me doing battle with Christ's enemies.
And that is ultimately what they are. They have, aparently walked in the way at one time in their lives, but do so no longer, having been persuaded by the collective wisdom of god-less humanity. It is one thing to be doubtful of God and his purposes and seek greater understanding in scripture or secular learnings, but it is quite another thing entirely to evangelize against the Spirit, to win over converts to a god-less worldview. They have become enemies of our God. I pray their search reveals for them the fools that they've become. You have been very kind and quite persuasive, even though I am now detecting a gloves off kind of intensity to your responses.
Unlike you, I am no longer charitable when it comes to dealing with "evangelical" athiests. True interaction, the free exchange of ideas, is quite impossible. They pretend to have been in our shoes, but have somehow seen the light. But though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. They are like the seeds sewn on rocky places.
The wisdom of our Lord says it all. The knowledge of the secrets of the Kingdom have been given to you, but not to them. Bill, I know you know this, but its times like these, our interactions with these faithless men, ever increasing in their numbers, that the wisdom of our Lord gives us reassurance.
I am struck by the lack of pursuasiveness of their arguments. I likened my belief in God to a frequency that I'm tuned into. It is not that they can't tune themselves to God's frequency, its just that they haven't done it, or if they have, they've changed the station. It is our choice, ultimately, to change the station or to remain.
I know I'm meandering, please forgive me. But I once asked someone on that site, a man who professed to 25 years of faith and service to God, and who was now making some logical argument against God, how persuasive he could actually be in this matter. My argument was that if he could be deceived for the greater portion of his life, how could he then be convinced that he was now not being deceived? Further, how am I, the hearer of his new message, to trust what he says given his frightening level of self deception?
He made no reply.
Many Blessings to you,
Chris
Dear Chris,
In haste (because I am right now penning my reply to Mr. Loftus' new post at DC on my philosophy):
Your challenge about deception referred to in your last paragraph here is brilliant. I wish I had thought of it.
More later,
BG
Bill, I've noticed that atheists try to avoid the problem you mention, by eliminating "free will" in favor of some sort of determinism, whether by biology or environment or whatever. They're never quite clear about it but they are convinced that my faith results from secular "predestination."
Of course, the question then becomes if my faith results from my genetic makeup or the fact that I received Christmas presents as a kid, and not from any rational view of the evidence, then, why should the atheist care? If I cannot change, why tell me how deluded I am. Why be so evangelical about your atheism? It profits neither the atheist nor me in the slightest, as I'm doomed to suffer in my delusions.
Stated differently, as Chris points out above, the moment you concede that someone might be persuaded by evidence of any sort, is the moment you concede the existence of free will.
Cheers.
Perhaps "this faith the Holy Spirit works in my heart by the gospel"? Thus the entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, made on behalf of all men.
I think you dismantled your own case by saying that when it comes to your faith you "will it."
The only thing I can say in response is this, "what if you will the wrong faith?" The point is that willing something does not make it so. And you've given me no reason not to will my particular beliefs, either, and I admit they are indeed beliefs of mine.
From my perspective you "will" meaning in your life that isn't to be found objectively because of a psychological need to find that meaning. A meaningless existence is a difficult belief to embrace. We recoil against it. It isn't what we'd like to find. So instead of dealing with the harsh realities of existence you simply will it otherwise.
It's a sad thing for me to see you do this. Why not follow the evidence instead, "come hell or high water?" Face reality like a man. Meet it head on. Admit what you must believe. Stop playing pretend. Children do that. Grow up.
If you decide to do this, I'll help you see the beauty of life. I'll show you how that knowing this life is all there is makes every day special. Roses smell sweeter. Laughter is richer. You no longer have to live in a fairy tale land with superstitious beliefs. You can celebrate life. You no longer have to defend your God's ways or why he doesn't do what normal civilized people do when ther is human suffering. You no longer have to defend the beliefs in the Bible, which cannot be done. You can get on with life, find happiness, joy, and excitement.
Ahhhh, but I'm wasting my time...
Cheers.
Dear John W. Loftus,
Thank you for commenting here.
I may have weakened my case when I introduced "will" into the equation, but I don't think so. I promise there is more to come regarding all of this. Seriously, I've only posited half the equation regarding faith, will, and subjectivism.
More will come. I promise.
Peace to you,
Bill Gnade
PS. Only you can tell if you are wasting your time. But I would not be so certain. I have not discounted you; please, do not discount me. Forgive me if you think I've felt I've wasted my time. What you and I have exchanged is, at least for me, the sort of thing I speak of in terms of "life changing." As I said, I am grateful.
Great blog!
In reading Mr. Loftus' remarks, I wonder: If knowing this life is all there is, makes happiness, laughter, etc. sweeter, then wouldn't despair, loneliness, and heartbreak be all the worse?
Cheers.
Dear Chris,
I am wondering, could you email me? Please?
My email address is readily found in my Blogger Profile.
Peace to you,
BG
Dear Exapologist,
Thank you for dropping in. I hope you will return. It is an honor to make your acquaintance.
Peace to you,
Bill Gnade
I stopped trying to be convincing a long time ago. It makes things flow easier. In my mediocre way, I still don't get atheists. They say God doesn't exist. They say he can't be proven. Yet, they can't prove he doesn't exist. I'll play it safe and go with God.
Bill,
"the existence of the universe is a faith-based claim"
I wanted to inject this comment on your discussion thread over at DC. It is my understanding that most studied atheists start with existence. They posit that existence of the universe is eternal, its irreducable. This I believe is the faith based claim, in contradistinction to our faith based claim that God is eternal and the universe, all that exists outside of himself, had a starting point in Him.
Peace to You,
Chris
By the way, I was moved to reprint your "Speed of Light" response on my blog. Hope that's ok. I'm expecting calls from advertisers any moment.
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